tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post6937876123672309338..comments2023-11-03T23:18:25.999+00:00Comments on BIGNEWS MARGATE: Thanet Times Screened out Tony Flaighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15212662248741515725noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-38031018151421493232012-10-09T21:20:39.281+01:002012-10-09T21:20:39.281+01:0016 38 Having just read your comment, has caused me...16 38 Having just read your comment, has caused me to suspend any further comments, well done.<br /><br />As a response to this and earlier comments of a similar nature, I shall cease to accept comments other than sent by email.<br /><br />So goodbye to the open free moving debate on this blog. Game over. Tony Flaighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15212662248741515725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-13605601050852904012012-10-09T16:38:18.847+01:002012-10-09T16:38:18.847+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-85346070982995119392012-10-07T14:06:52.513+01:002012-10-07T14:06:52.513+01:00Excuse me... is this your tin foil hat?Excuse me... is this your tin foil hat?1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-20766276781962578392012-10-07T11:39:02.304+01:002012-10-07T11:39:02.304+01:00I emailed Rebecca (Gazette) a link to a current FO...I emailed Rebecca (Gazette) a link to a current FOI application. Why not publish at least the history and the public interest argument involved ?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/unlawful_and_quasi_military_dril#incoming-315160" rel="nofollow"> Current FOI application </a><br /><br />Most youngsters now relate to the idea of "Democratic". And are educated (indoctrinated) to the idea that their rights and freedoms are invested in and protected by "Democracy".<br /><br />What is the Coronation ?<br /><br />It is an unique wedding ceremony of the monarch to the people.<br /><br />At that ceremony the monarch takes oaths which are binding on police and judiciary. The oath becoming sole fount of justice in mercy.<br /><br />The people and the monarchy wedded form a body of authority independent of government called "The Crown"<br /><br />Judges, coroners and police are (supposed to be) independent ministerial officers of the Crown (IE our servants not state employees)<br /><br />Armed force is (or was until recently) a monopoly of the Crown. IE The bearing of arms is or was restricted to those Crown authorized on behalf of the people. Our Navy Our Army Our RAF Our Police<br /><br />There were two laws dealing with this area.<br /><br />The Unlawful Drilling Act 1819.<br /><br />The Public Order Act 1936<br /><br />The first act made it an offence to engage in military style activity without CROWN authority.<br /><br />The second act (brought in to deal with Mosley's blackshirts) makes it an offence to engage in quasi military activity.<br /><br />Jack Straw repealed the Unlawful Drilling Act. At a stroke paving the way for private armies and leaving the matter of legality of private military activity to a secret decision of government law officers.<br /><br />Removing the power of the Crown (the power of the people) at a stroke.<br /><br />reversing the arrangements made for restitution of monarchy after English civil war.<br /><br />This FOI application is about the arrest of North Thanet tory vice chair for Unlawful Drilling (paramilitary activity) in 1987.<br /><br />Who took the decision not to prosecute ? Tory law officer in secret or CPS ?<br /><br />Did Roger Gale MP then support the application made by his fellow Thanet tory for re-issue of a firearms cert ?<br /><br />was the firearms cert for 303 762 and 9mm semi auto with powder licence and unlimited ammo holding ? No I am not kidding.<br /><br />So this small Thanet case has implications in huge constitutional changes that were slipped into the agenda by Labour's Jack straw. Notably unopposed by Tory or Liberal ... as power passed from the Crown (subject of open Court) to govt (with secret power to deny access to Court for determination)<br /><br />A local paper employs skilled journalists who have a far greater ability than me, to describe the history (Bill and petition of Rights etc) and to set out the arguments. <br /><br />But the fact is the local paper has always been wary about rocking the parochial Thanet tory boat.<br /><br />In TV culture imagine if Judge John Deede was presiding over a case against Bodey and Doyle of the Professionals.<br /><br />"Does this CI5 have Crown authority to bear arms"<br /><br />"Does this CI5 have Crown Authority to direct police operations ?"<br /><br />Yesterday's entertainment tomorrow's reality. <br /><br />Imagine Jack Straw's chum's Tim Spicer's Aegis deploying armed in support (or control of) the police civil power. <br /><br />Can't happen here ? A privatized govt gestapo?<br /><br />Crown v Parliament. When the Queen told Paul Burrell there are forces at work in this Realm ... think on. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-58488643498166945262012-10-07T10:15:01.606+01:002012-10-07T10:15:01.606+01:00The "What do they know" public FOI site ...The "What do they know" public FOI site is researching ways to improve its activity. <br /><br />The Gazette ended up trailing behind the FOI applications which exposed the huge contamination of Thanet's water supply since 1963. <br /><br />Having reported on my FOI results did the Gazette pursue TDC and seek to interview cllrs who had known about the contamination and kept quiet ? NO<br /><br />Did the Gazette get on to Public Health trying to raise a epidemiologiocal study of water contamination health effects in Thanet (which has a very high level of ectopic pregnancy and polycystic ovary) ? NO<br /><br />Did Gazette get on to Environment Agency and Health and Safety Exec to seek inquiry into areas around direct water abstraction in Thanet ? Such as laundries and the health patterns of their workforce and neighbours ? NO<br /><br />So the reality is that papers like the Gazette favour their advertisers (like TDC) over the public interest of their readership. And free sites like "what do they know" represent the public interest, and right to information, far better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-92193281779398791002012-10-07T08:53:32.066+01:002012-10-07T08:53:32.066+01:00“Capital must protect itself in every possible way...“Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When through the process of law the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. These truths are well known among our principal men who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. <b>By dividing the voter through the political party system we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance.</b> It is thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished." - 1924 US Banker’s Association MagazineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-72209598618272095252012-10-06T14:02:07.036+01:002012-10-06T14:02:07.036+01:00I won't accept that at all, either locally or ...I won't accept that at all, either locally or nationally. Can't remember seeing any serious investigative journalism in the local papers for quite some significant time... it isn't up to the newpaper industry to hold our politicians to account and anyone who thinks they should doesn't hold the democratic process as close to their heart as I do.<br /><br />It is because people have stopped engaging on a pesonal level with the people elected to act appropriately on their behalf that we face many of the issues we do today.<br /><br />If you aren't happy with the system rather than waiting for some hack to write an editorial start engaging with the system and get your friends to do the same!1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-49454385590844174642012-10-06T10:50:29.096+01:002012-10-06T10:50:29.096+01:00OK, but accept that without the local media our lo...OK, but accept that without the local media our local politicians have a free pass to do whatever they like. That is the world we are entering. The demise of the local press is filling a hole that bloggers will never be able to satisfactorily fill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-76542793734355994602012-10-05T17:30:57.181+01:002012-10-05T17:30:57.181+01:00They do, but they don't charge me 60p for the ...They do, but they don't charge me 60p for the priviledge of reading their bias. If I want a counter to one bias I can go read a blog with the oposing view... again not being charged 60p!<br /><br />I'd happily pay for good journalism but unfortunately there is very little and not worth the price. Sorry that people are being made redundant probably but thats life I'm afraid. If they are any good they'll get another job.1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-5676261139296767752012-10-05T14:49:28.414+01:002012-10-05T14:49:28.414+01:00"newspapers have agendas, they have bias and ..."newspapers have agendas, they have bias and unless you are on the same wave length you find them very unfulfilling"<br /><br />And bloggers don't have agendas? I look at blogs but, let's be honest, bloggers are just the green ink brigade in a groovy, hi-tech guise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-10308419105339771582012-10-04T22:03:40.610+01:002012-10-04T22:03:40.610+01:00@ Anonymous 25:52 SOME people are trying to save ...@ Anonymous 25:52 SOME people are trying to save High Streets... as the majority don't care enough or find the alternative convenient High Streets will continue to decline, to be honest though it won't be much longer, say 20-30 years before the out of town super centres close as well... once the 40 year olds get to be 70 the "shopping experience" will primarily be done behind a big screen and things will be shipped from massive storage facilities staffed by minimum wage paid employees. It's inevitable. Sorry and all.<br /><br />@Tony, newspapers have agendas, they have bias and unless you are on the same wave length you find them very unfulfilling, the writing that is currently described as "investigative journalism" tends to be stuff that has been in the public for days before being picked up by some hack. With the arrival of social media and blogs chances are you'll find out more through them than on the first 5 pages of any printed rubbish available for 50p at W H Smiths.<br /><br />If newspapers and their respective staff actually did a good job people would buy them and they wouldn't fold. The fact that the Times hasn't been particularly good at its job in the last 5 years or more is testament to its collapse and closure.1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-9728639152754942152012-10-04T10:39:44.472+01:002012-10-04T10:39:44.472+01:00Here is why you should care Rob, newspapers offer ...Here is why you should care Rob, newspapers offer public scrutiny that the public would find difficult to to access, as an example I recently read on KCC's website that they have an entrepreneurial director of their legal department apparently they employ dozens of lawyers, so out of curiosity I wrote to the council's press office, of course I got the standard response that is they ignored the request for info such as how this benefits the community out what sort of return the tax paid sees on its investment.<br /><br />That may be a short of weird inquiry, granted, but a journalist would have time to pursue.<br /><br />Anyway the thing is the gazette and Times have over the years put out things in the public domain that would otherwise have remained hidden, such as the current scandal of the councils victimisation of l<br />ow paid workers as they are seeking to do while Thanet Labour party do nothing and say nothing to protect the most vulnerableTony Flaighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15212662248741515725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-30387377064025613742012-10-03T23:52:42.330+01:002012-10-03T23:52:42.330+01:00Yet people are trying to save High Streets when th...Yet people are trying to save High Streets when the majority want out of town shopping centres... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-56169359158989677382012-10-03T21:57:50.960+01:002012-10-03T21:57:50.960+01:00News isn't a product... it can't be as it ...News isn't a product... it can't be as it is readily available! As I wrote on Michael's blog papers have never sold news, they think they do but they actually sell access to readers to advertising companies (as you stated initially). If newpaper editors and owners don't offer what readers want then they'll go elsewhere. The newspaper industry is in decline and has been since the internet began and like I said on Michael's blog why should we care, we shouldn't be expected ro prop up businesses that have had their day, we didn't do it for the cart manufacturers when the car became mainstream or telephone switchboard operators when the process was automated!1 o'clock Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06776573336320716428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-89582721139433294512012-10-03T17:00:35.593+01:002012-10-03T17:00:35.593+01:00I never take the local papers so I added to the de...I never take the local papers so I added to the demise I dont buy many midweek papers I do like to listen to the news on TV or radio and as you say Online. I did try the "i" for a couple of weeks but dislike the style. I wont miss the local and I doubt many will as I never saw the need for two local editions. I never saw the spelling mistake so if you havent changed it I must have understood your meaning, You like me got English CSE grade Z lol I have managed to blag my way through life with a dictionary and even now at almost sixty I had to use it today to look up what a word meant, I must stop reading things with big words in them, Don Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099505939055955603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-6844705214405647922012-10-03T16:27:35.523+01:002012-10-03T16:27:35.523+01:00The Times / Gazette are less than happy about Simo...The Times / Gazette are less than happy about Simon Moores using the name, expect to read something in this friday's edition!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-1216268259586564992012-10-03T13:26:10.844+01:002012-10-03T13:26:10.844+01:00Cheers 12 51 well firstly I don't think for on...Cheers 12 51 well firstly I don't think for one minute that Kent Messenger group would have taken any prisoners, and as the typical anonymous contributor you have as much credibility as I, at this point. I don't see any reference to job cuts but maybe that is next, obviously you may know better. <br /><br />Secondly as to the spelling you have a point, still at some time out was decided that spelling would be formalised however you understood what I meant and clearly had some satisfaction in correcting my error.so no harm done there.Tony Flaighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15212662248741515725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25954340.post-37214086649768467592012-10-03T12:51:32.966+01:002012-10-03T12:51:32.966+01:00When the Kent Messenger wanted to merge with the T...When the Kent Messenger wanted to merge with the Thanet Times I believe you were strongly opposed - if the monopolies & mergers board had approved it some of those Times journalists now out of work would still be employed. be careful what you wish for !<br />"popularist (not a word according to the spell checker)" - that'll be because the word is populist :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com