Anyway if you're unaware of the circumstances leading up to the death of Ian Tomlinson, you might wish to read this report from the BBC view the filmed interview with Jacqui Smith and video from the Guardian newspaper showing policeman attacking Mr Tomlinson from behind.
It clearly shows a police officer, at last week's G20 protests knocking Mr. Tomlinson to the ground from behind for no apparent reason.
Now I suspect that had this been, any other identifiable citizen of this country, apparently knocking an innocent man to the ground, which preceded a man's death by minutes, they would, most likely have found themselves at least, interviewed and probably charged for either manslaughter or murder within hours of the tragedy.
However often as is in the case with Britain's police forces, what had been normal procedure for the general public, becomes strangely muddied, and non applicable it seems where police officers are concerned.
Anyway it's not for me to make your mind up, but I strongly suggest you look at the video of this incident, if also I would recommends watching Jacqui Smith referring to a “managed investigation” overseen by police officers, myself I would hope that all investigations were managed etc.
What worries me is the fact that the police appear not able to confidently and briskly conclude their investigations.
And the Home Secretary's reference to the managed investigation, reminds me of all those enquiries that go on interminably over such things as ministers claiming for porno videos and barbecue sets, until the public lose all interest or politicians have had enough time to muddy the waters.
At the end of the day, a man on his way home from work, has been knocked to the ground from behind, by a police officer, and shortly after died of a heart attack, he deserved better and his family deserve a prompt and honest conclusion to this matter
i AM dissmayed and disgusted by theb video its incredible in London 2009 we have this goingn on
ReplyDeleteThere has been some suggestion that Mr Tomlinson had a brain anyurism and was actually battoned in the head prior to this incident although no one has come forward to prove or disprove this
ReplyDeleteSir Head, give the police and politicians time and their will be all kinds of suggestions until we get to the point where we've forgotten that Mr Tomlinson was seemingly attacked in rather a cowardly manner from behind.
ReplyDeleteTony that was what got me if someone is goingnto do something at least stand in front of them I am disgusted
ReplyDeleteTony, you are indeed correct on that and it will probably be whitewashed over just like the Charles de Menzies case was where plod lied about that too, at least this time there was some filmed evidence, even tho over half of the CCTV cameras in London that day were turned off (will look for the link about that again). What sickens me about it, apart from the cowardly actions of plod, is that i actually know people who are trying to justify the police actions even when confronted with the video.
ReplyDeleteVideo of Police apparently hindering the ambulance to pick Tomlinson up
ReplyDeletehttp://jimjay.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-evidence-police-obstructed.html
I am shocked at that, it is truely disgusting that a person who is meant to uphold the law acted in that way, I read years ago about a woman and her toddler who got caught up in the poll tax riots and she begged the police to let her out, she had just gone shopping and not being a follower of news with a lot of young people don't and on the every outskirts she was trapped, she begged and begged to be let out and found herself and her child herded more towards the violence! that said I got trapped once in Oxford I lived in Headington by the football ground and I needed milk so I went to the garage, brought my milk walked out the door to see two mobs rushing towards each other, I turned tail to get back into the garage and the door was locked! the mobs where away away at this point, I hammered and hammered and the server just shrugged his shoulders and said sorry love your outside! bastard! what saved me as the mob moved in was a police officer on a horse who saw I was hammering on the door as the mob started taking over the forecourt and positioned her horse in front of me, she did nothing in that incidence other than keep me safe, it was awful, not only that she kept trying to get me inside the garage and the assistant/owner wouldn't! at the end of it having seen people hitting each other with bottles, bits of wood, sign post it dispursed and I went back home, to get ready for my night shift! patching up the people who had made me so fightened!
ReplyDeleteIf I am not mistaken, the "policeman" who shoved Mr Tomlinson to the ground had no shoulder number. A bit like the "police" who did the shoving at Kingsnorth. Could this be because they are not policemen?
ReplyDeleteThis will not be surprising to anyone with experience of demos or the Miners strike where Army personel dressed as police were used.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1168315/G20-policeman-suspended-new-pictures-reveal-victims-drunken-clash-officers-shortly-collapsed.html
ReplyDeleteHave a butchers at the pic.
I get a nasty feeling that there will be some hand wringing a little finger wagging and then nothing will be done at all. I hope this is not the case but I'm not holding my breath.
ReplyDeleteMore nazis in un-numbered uniforms - this time hitting a girl with a baton from the bbc website,http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7998976.stm there are loads of incidents like this from the g20 - just do a you tube search. Some bloke lost his front teeth coz he was smashed in the face with a baton - makes you wonder who started the riots - ive got a few quid on the police starting it every time like they did at the Poll Tax riots
ReplyDeleteAnd heres the full video - bit different to the propaganda piece the bbc put out
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9TeRQsKr0
And heres 7 more from the Guardian newspaper website
ReplyDeletehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/15/g20-protest-police-videos-catalogue