A wot the heck moment, as I read allegations of well .. yawn Thanet politicians, web pages and flippin Facebook, Simon Moores cyber super sluth and Will Scobie the worlds youngest living Mayor of Margate. Do we really care. Labour looks after families, the Harts, Greens, etc so what if Will Scobie wants to help his girlfriend!
I've been preoccupied but for what it's worth, neither of these councillors inspire any confidence, and really I have difficulty taking either seriously, first lets dispense with Moores, he himself seems accident prone in the web department having last year linked my name (by hypertext link) to a story about a beached whale, something which at first I thought was a juvenile school boy joke, although soon, realised it was genuine mistake though not something I ever done myself in last 1700 odd posts till now but Simon convinced me that it was an Ipad error.
Now Will Scobie, Mayor of Margate, would have probably done better just to briefly brush off, Simon's accusation, maybe a suggestion that if Moores was correct in his claims, it was an error blah blah blah. I take it Will has chosen to be a professional politician, and in my opinion needs to up his game, it's clearly no accident, that he was chosen as Mayor, and I understand, this is seen by some, as a cynical means, by which young Will can ingratiate himself, with large numbers of people helping him bag a place in the county council, paying thirteen grand a year currently + exe's, till such time as he can get a proper job like MP!
Still more importantly here at Flaig mansions comes news from Mrs Me, that shock horror the cheese aisle up at Tesco was empty except for one cold cabinet at the end, still even worse was the news that Tesco is now making you deposit a pound to use a blimin trolley, Christ you expect that sort of thing a Asda Aldi and Lydl.
I say stuff your facebook spats, some things are more important! not only was cheese in limited supply at the supermarket I was disappointed to learn a that fresh roast chicken was not available either.
I thought you were anti-Tesco, because they take business away from smaller local stores (some of which sell cheese!).
ReplyDeleteI am definately anti Tesco, but if they want to save all their trolly's they need to increase the hire to £5 If you go round most of the council estates you will find most of the missing trolley's If we took on the Arabic laws of stealing having a finger chopped off each time then the whole hand when no fingers remain, just think they could then legally apply for disabled benefits, but they wouldn;t be doing any more stealingunless of course the learn to use their toes, thats a thought!!!
DeleteTo some extent, where they hover up business with express stores, Tesco have got big till to this point by having the best quality and service, I fear for the future, Sainsburys is for old people, Aldi and Lidl for quirky no frills value, Asda is just cheap, Waitrose and M&S for people with more money than sense.
ReplyDeleteIf Sainsburys is for old people then why aren't you shopping there?
DeleteWaitrose is for people with money and sense.
DeleteTheir fresh meat counter is second to none. Nowhere else sells free range pork. (if you care about piggy welfare but can't help eating the delicious stuff)
It is pricey though.
Nepotism in the Labour party! good grief!
ReplyDeleteIt's better than Cheddar!
DeleteJust on my weekend catch up with your's and Simon's blogs - i must say the only two worth looking at - and see the big squabble you talk about between Simon and Will. It seems clear to me as an outsider that if you want the similar stuff to continue vote Labour - if you want to get back to some normality vote Conservative. Labour are just giving our assets away - 3.3 million for Pleasurama? What century are Labour in - its worth 10 times that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSorry to contradict Tony but Cathedral cheese is cheaper at Waitrose at present
Naked in Thanet is well worth looking at too (unless you're gay).
DeleteIt was the Tory rein that lost all the money on Pleasurama, Ezekiel?Bayford between them didn't enforce anything lost us tax payers a fortune, the new Labour have at least got something started at long last just how long has this been kept on the burner, we lost the freehold on the land that was worth a fortune thank Tories you did a really good job, not that I am any more leaning towards the Labour or our numerous so called Independants which I believe only 3 were voted to be Independant the others just left their ship and decided to go for a new party, bloody cheek did we vote them in NO! I hate politics
DeleteIt just shows you the standard of our concillors if all they can do is squable about the mayor's facebook page. There cant be anything else in Margate for them to worry about.
ReplyDeleteWhy not shop at tescos online (or one of the others)? No more hustle or bustle, no more dirty trollies.
At tescos pap £60 and you can have as many £40 plus deliveries as you like for 6 months.
They even text you to tell you the actual hour within your 2 hour slot. Even at the weekend that’s about £2.40 rather than the normal £6 for delivery.
You even have access to fresh counter, meat, fish, pies and cheese.
No need to go looking for their offers, just click a tab and plenty of cheese at half price this week.
So what is Pleasurama site worth?
ReplyDeleteAs a piece of recreationl ground less than £1 millions.
As a building site for 150 flats at about £50,000 per flat about £7.5 millions, £33 millions never.
They need to sell Ramsgate's leisure facilities to help fund Margate's leisure facilities!
DeletePleasurama flats are supposed to be 300k not 50k each.
DeleteTo persist with mysterious SFP Ventures (Site of Former Pleasurama so a specific venture) and directors and no track record or blueprints looks like bungs have been paid to local government officers and councillors and are being called in.
25k paid to Ramsgate Labour last time.
Mcgonangal will keep quiet and take her 130k paycheck and maybe a Samuel payoff later.
Why give the Ramsgate money to Margate? Margate gets far more funding than Ramsgate, if they did something about the rubbish and filth in so many areas of Margate it may improve the chances of acquiring funding, until that happens who in their right mind will waste further money on people who just don't give a dam
DeleteIs it your ipad error to link Simon to the Mayor page Tony just to rub it in it aint him. or was it a mistake either way it made me smile. Sorry the cheese Isle was empty but obviouslly the Thanetians are not getting enough cheese onn the blogosphere they are having to get it from Tesco.
ReplyDeleteIt was deliberate
Delete4:23 is alleging a serious criminal offence without offering a shred of supporting evidence or any true understanding of how local government works in such matters. Having convinced the Labour Cabinet to further review the Pleasurama application I find such allegations quite sad if not offensive. Perhaps you should keep such wild delusions to yourself
ReplyDeleteDidn't you agree the 0% salary fraud for Samuel and White?
DeleteYou seem to have a habit of empty bluster over TDC's criminality. With the former Leader arrested for fraud it's hardly offensive - just accurate.
Anon 4.23 if you read carefully you will see that 50k refers to the site value and not the ifnished flats value. Maybe Tony needs to delete you comment unless you can send him proof of what yu are claiming. The whole pleasurama does seem a little odd with a developer with no obvious trck record being selected and then the project continuing when the present chief exec recommended it be halted but you need proof of wrong doings.
ReplyDeletewhat proof do you think is acceptable?
Delete11.05 you are way off with your prices - how many luxury flats do you know at 50k? 4.23 is closer but they are more likely to be 500k and the original comment of 33million for the site might be a bit over the top but a lot nearer for a prime site of that size.
ReplyDeleteAre you deliberately thick, 06:00, or do you have trouble with figures. A site value per flat is before development. Add development costs and then you get closer to the real cost, but you're not there yet. To that have to be added capital costs, lawyers, architects, surveyors, engineers and agents fees and developers staff salaries.
DeleteAdd a profit, otherwise there is no point in doing it, and you are probably up around the £300,000 for the finished article as a selling price.
As for 4:23, the only thing that person is closer to is a court of law.
Take a look at www.rightmove.co.uk and you will see that the estate agent (based in Billericay) is asking from £275,000 to £500,000 for the penthouse. A bit of a hike for the agents rep to come and show you round!
DeleteI think you are being a bit unfair Tom - labour are talking about selling the freehold of the site, not just the leasehold. All that will happen then is that the developer will pass on the deal for an enormous profit to someone else.33 million is a bit excessive but 3.3 is too low. We in Thanet always get undervalued and then shafted.
DeleteAnon, please don't get me wrong. I would be the first to agree that 3.3 million is a steal as a development site. I was simply trying to clarify the difference in value between a unit as a site and the finished article.
DeleteThis has been atrociously handled by Labour when first gifted to the developer way back and now again, when back in power, they are flogging it cheap. However, they did get a nice little wedge for party funds.
doesn't this put you near a court of law alleging Labour donations on the sale of public land?
DeleteThe Tories had 8 years to sort the mess and did nothing. Bungs were floated around Chinagate too.
The flats prices of c300k for Pleasurama are retail ie including all costs. 100 or so of those is 30M not bad for 3M of public land.
Shunt it offshore and back again and a few of the councillors and officials can have a few free flats or a Ferrari for the permits.
What rather worries me is that this appears to be another labour faites accompli. Although I can't reveal my objections and concerns expressed in a closed cabinet session it was enough for Clive and company to kick the matter back to officers for further research and assurance and then bring it back, I thought, to Cabinet with the level if due diligence that would satisfy me and others in both sides.
ReplyDeleteInstead, the first time I find out about this new deal is in the Gazette!
Simon. One of the many Pleasurama mysteries is why the 199-year leases issued in September 2009 didn’t have to go through the asset disposal process and why the freehold sale of the site proposed now doesn’t.
DeleteI guess the main problem here is lack of transparency, as the leases were issued in secret so no member of the public would have know the asset disposal process was being subverted.
Now the council are saying that no asset disposal process is required to dispose of the freehold, because the leases have already been issued in a way the presumed eventual disposal of the freeholds.
I guess that without bringing transparency to this large council deal, there will be more mistakes and it will back before cabinet again in another three years.