Tuesday, November 23, 2010

KCC Accounts – No publicity please on advertising

Some time back in the summer, I was taking a gander at KCC accounts, just to see if the extravagant claims made for the now defunct KCC project Kent TV, saving vast amounts of wonger could be quantified or justified in any black and white way.

Not being an accountant, to be honest, despite my interest, I felt the life forces draining away, after a quick gander at the Statement of accounts, even though, it shed some light on the extraordinary, profligate spending by Kent Tories, I was drained.

At the time I could find no sign of Kent TV in the Statement of Accounts published by KCC, and haven't since, however stumbling across some comments I noted, I felt should revisit, KCC's Statement of Accounts for 2007-08 08-09 since to be honest the amounts spent on promotion are worthy of an enquiry.

As a public service Bignews Margate has to report on the mind numbing waste, of Kent council's advertising,  in fact an advertising campaign on the subject of waste cost £624,000 during the year 2008/09, still this is a drop in the ocean compared to the big ticket item "Recruitment" now I don't know if you're like me but when I'm looking for work, I tend to delve quite deep, like Jobcentres and company web sites as well as papers, still it would appear KCC prefer lavish advertising or how else can you explain not one, not two but a stonking great big figure of more than three million £3,009,000 during 2008-9 for job ads.

In fairness I suspect because of objective reporting from the likes of Bignews Margate, and newspapers like KOS and Kent Messenger, tuning into Kent Tories hare brained, slack grip on costs, has at least resulted in advertising spending having come down from a mind boggling near six million (£5,985,000) in 2008-9 to a still outrageous five mill (£5,130,000) in 2009-10.

Interestingly last years statement of accounts no longer carries detailed info on advertising, apparently its not a requirement and hell, why worry us taxpayers, anyway thanks to the helpful staff at KCC, not the ones on fat bonuses, but those who retain the public service ethos lost by those helping themselves to bonuses.

Still not surprisingly the often made assertion that Kent TV, saved Kent taxpayers money seems to me to have been without foundation and appears hidden from the accounts, still if you know different, please comment.

Kent council has to communicate with taxpayers but five million budget half of which is spent on job advertising is pure waste, still I suggest if you pay tax, take a gander at how KCC spends your money, also a final question the last years accounts now detail bonus payments made to the bosses (chief exec 31 grand for what its not explained 2008-9) why are these pages shown side ways, is this so we get a pain in the neck trying to read them?

82 comments:

  1. At least the KM and Paul Francis have been on the ball regarding spending at KCC on 117 overseas trips, thousands on private health care, taxi fares to drive the ex chief exec half a mile from lunch, training jollies at expensive hotels, thousand spent on Google ads to promote Kent TV and this was paid for by the Finance Directors credit card maybe to hide its purpose.
    But what I am interested to know, and it is not in the 2009/10 report, is how much of the £50 millions deposited in Icelandic Banks has been recovered. Why the secret? There is a statement that all apart from £3.5 million is expected to be recovered one day, but what about the millions in interest that will not be recovered.

    Last week we had a rare event at KCC: cllr Cater apologised for letting down the vunerable children in Kent that were given 3rd rate protection.
    Hopefully he will own up in the future when KCC lets down the general taxpayer.

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  2. Under a thoroughly corrupt system, as we have now across the world, local government corruption and embezzlement is not only tolerated, but positively encouraged as a means to reward servants to the system and ensure loyalty to the program. This corruption also extends to the accountants, of course.

    Common in the US is the practice of double bookkeeping (keeping two sets of books), for example where state funds are invested in various investment vehicles for the sole purpose of enriching state officials personally.

    I can't tell much from the accounts, but I don't see why Kent should be any different from anywhere else, though not as extreme, perhaps.

    A couple of things to catch my eye, the deposits in the Icelandic bank that went belly up and a fairly large exposure to derivatives through Goldman Sucks in 2008/9 which was no longer the case in 2009/10.

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  3. The Kent Messenger didnt seem to do too bad out of it !!!

    Could this be why they stay silent on so many issues ?

    http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/money_paid_to_the_kent_messenger#incoming-51998

    Money paid to the Kent Messenger Group

    Kent County Council

    27 October 2009
    Dear Mr Burns

    Thank you for your request for information

    Our financial database indicates that monies have been paid to the Kent
    Messenger Group and others newspaper groups over the last three financial
    years and listed below is the total amount for each group for each year.
    The primary reason for this expenditure is statutory advertising (for
    example: highway notices) and non-statutory advertising (for example:
    recruitment).

    Kent Messenger Group
    2006-2007 £220,557.88
    2007-2008 £264,267.68
    2008-2009 £246,710.83

    Kent on Sunday
    2006-2007 £88,874.29
    2007-2008 £92,125.56
    2008-2009 £48,701.25

    Courier News Group (Courier News Ltd, Courier Media Group Ltd)
    2006-2007 £11,140.02
    2007-2008 £24,786.44
    2008-2009 £29,384.39

    19 other newspaper groups including Kent Regional Newspapers, The
    Economist, South East Gazette, London Gazette, & The Times
    2006-2007 £4,563.74
    2007-2008 £18,596.18
    2008-2009 £33,191.16

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  4. Idiots guide to public sector that produces no wealth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi2l0NilEBE&feature=player_embedded

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  5. 11:26 interesting figure which for some reason does not add up to the 3 million on the balance sheet.

    £357,000 so where did the 2.5 mill go
    a question for the auditor i think

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  6. For once an incredibly boring post suited only for accountants and nerds. Mind you it has ceratinly attracted the attention of Mr. Boring-in-Chief who might have been relied upon to produce a marathon comment with meaningless figures. Only surprised there is no reference to masonic dues and charities.

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  7. No, 11:22, not easy to inject Gerry O'Friggin' Reilly or whatever his name is and the 'troubles' in Ulster in a post about county mis-spending.... yawn...

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  8. You don't usually have any trouble injecting masons, Tories, facists, gunpowder plots and all into most other subjects.

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  9. Carter apologises for Third Reich SS ?

    Perhaps they should target 'neglected' children rather than 'loved' children and then they might not have to fight so hard to hit their forced adoption targets. Rather let a few die so they can use this as an excuse to take even more into the massive money making child care industry carried out in secrecy of course. Wouldn’t want to scare the horses !

    It is ridiculous to be paying up wards of £400 - 750 per child per week to fostercarers.
    Next they will be having us believe that child protection policy programme isn’t based on
    Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World and George Orwells 1984 eugenics

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  10. What a weird comment. Obviously a UKIP supporter! Ein Reich, ein fuhrer and all that.

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  11. Fascinating post tony follow the MONEY TRAIL


    http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/peter_gilroy_chief_executive_off_2#incoming-33613

    http://save-kent.blogspot.com/search/label/Paul%20Carter

    http://m.modernghana.com/mobile/74947/1/npp-goes-for-another-scam-financial-transaction.html

    http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ceo_peter_gilroy_associates_limi#outgoing-66551

    all connected to children services?

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  12. Could the same thing be happening in Kent does the council work hand in hand with the secret family courts and money go into back pockets or companies connected to the council and courts in secret, how would we know ???

    Judges SLUSH Funds Illegal ? part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtHCIXVb_eo&NR=1

    Judges SLUSH Funds Illegal ? part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_lwzj8D ... re=related

    Judges SLUSH Fund , part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKVNKCiG ... re=related

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  13. One for the Independent Auditors not connected to KCC Tony ?

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  14. Why are we paying all these corporate parent councillors?

    Apology for a 3rd rate child protection service, I think many will agree with Carter . Did Kent Police pretend to carry out an investigation into the child abuse in Kendall House children's home ???


    http://www.chris-uk.org/kendall-house-home/17482

    http://www.no2abuse.com/

    surely the Kent Police wouldn’t work alongside KCC to steal children or to keep child abuse covered up , or would they ?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8039034/Kent-police-take-on-the-heavy-work.html

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  15. Why are we paying all these corporate parent councillors?

    Apology for a 3rd rate child protection service, I think many will agree with him did Kent Police pretend to carry out an investigation ???
    Kendall House
    http://www.chris-uk.org/kendall-house-home/17482
    http://www.no2abuse.com/

    surely the Kent Police wouldn’t work alongside KCC to steal children or to keep child abuse covered up , or would they ?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8039034/Kent-police-take-on-the-heavy-work.html

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  16. It seems to me that people are far more bothered about money and an apology for our taxes being mis-spent than children.Shocking but the uncomfortable truth which is why abuses can be carried out against children with no one even batting an eyelid.

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  17. Part of ARK academy project (Absolute Return for Kids) regards the caressing of children by adults in schools. I just watched the brilliant Brian Gerrish in the Trafalgar Square rally to raise awareness of the abuse of children by some professionals within social services, churches, education, etc; I had to check the claim out online and sadly, it's true.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAowCEeUV4E

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  18. The glue that silently binds this rotten, stinking system together

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?board=332.0

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  19. 'The Euro Game Is Up! Who the hell do you think you are?' - Nigel Farage MEP

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg

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  20. Since, as the blogger, you can identify the source of comments, Tony, perhaps you could tell us out of interest how many are from the same person? Sounds sometimes like he is simply debating with himself.

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  21. Largest chunk of council tax goes Social Services, a child protection service debatable ?

    Now if we have an over inflated (deliberately so) children protection service wouldnt this require huge sums of money ?
    Of course it would.

    Could people in this service work together in secret with others in high places to abuse children instead of looking after ?

    Look up Hollie Greig.
    judge, police, social workers, school teachers etc

    People paid to protect children can abuse their positions and get away with stealing and hurting children and get paid for it out of our taxes. Why ? because good people do and say nothing.

    councillors mp's supposed to be good people ? if so then why are they so silent on these issues when we are paying their wages?

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  22. anon tues 23 nov 7.44pm

    Last week we had a rare event at KCC: cllr Cater apologised for letting down the vunerable children in Kent that were given 3rd rate protection

    or should that say stolen for forced adoption ???

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  23. Doesn’t look likely we will be getting any of the money back either.

    Icelandic people refuse to repay Internet bank’s multi-billion debt
    People in Iceland have rejected their government's pledge to repay a debt of more than US$5 billion left by the collapse of Icesave Internet bank. 93 per cent of people voted “no” in a referendum.
    Less than two per cent supported the repayment of the debt, which is due to be paid to the UK and Dutch governments, which had compensated the investors who had lost money.

    Andrew Gavin Marshall from the Center for Research on Globalization says the public should not have to shoulder the burden of mistakes made by banks.

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  24. Andrew Gavin Marshall hit the nail firmly on the head.

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  25. The cruelest lies are often told in silence. A man may have sat in a room for hours and not opened his mouth, and yet come out of that room a disloyal friend or a vile calumniator. ~ Stevenson, Robert Louis

    The problem with today is that "adult bullies" are running the corporations who try to force people into silence. They create a fear and sow small seeds of doubt. People who do not care enough to help expose their lies , often use their excuses for staying quiet.

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  26. The Local Government Association (LGA) is like a trade association for councils, who pay a yearly subscription to them with taxpayers’ money.

    Councils should end their subscriptions to the LGA and use the money to cut council tax, pay off debt or for services that residents actually want.

    Tony a Freedom of Information Request my be inorder to expose hidden costs including publicity costs, could be a job for the media as they pertain to give us "selective" truths.

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  27. anon nov 23 7.44 anon 25 nov 8.19

    Far from a boring post it is absolutely cracking post , maybe a little to close for comfort for some, especially councillors and the former KCC CEO. We never get to read about this in the local papers do we, which is very worrying with their connections to vunerable children in Kent !

    Someone is not telling the whole truth or is it just another cover up by KCC???

    ‘Ooh, an email. I wonder if that nice princess from Nigeria has transferred that money yet.’

    http://save-kent.blogspot.com/search/label/Paul%20Carter

    http://m.modernghana.com/mobile/74947/1/npp-goes-for-another-scam-financial-transaction.html

    Dear Caroline Dodge - KCC,

    It is difficult to understand Peter Gilroy's , quote

    'In addition, Mr Gilroy would like to state for the record that he
    did not use this person to set up his business; he has never heard
    of this person and has no idea who he or she is or what services
    he/she provides.'

    Information available publicly via Duport (a summary of this
    information is listed), confims that the same Dunstana Davies
    appears on Peter Gilroy & Associates Limited document 288b, one would obviously expect Peter Gilroy to have copies of all documents relating to his company?

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  28. Connections to vulnerable children.

    Former Kent CEO Peter Gilroy
    ‘career starting in Nursing and then in Social Work. I started in
    psychiatric nursing and qualified as a registered mental nurse (RMN)
    before going on to study
    psychiatric social work and gaining my CQSW
    (Certificate of Qualification in Social Work). I then went on to do
    further training in mental health at the Tavistock Institute and with the Richmond Fellowship as well as in the Health Service, and undertook postgraduate training courses both at Exeter and Bristol Universities. As a practitioner I worked as part of a project closing large psychiatric
    hospitals in Devon where we were one of the first areas to develop
    alternative housing for former patients. I then applied to join East Sussex County Council where I managed all the social services (as it was then defined) for Brighton, Hove and Lewes. Throughout this period, up until I joined Kent County Council, I retained a small caseload. While I was there I was asked to be part of the Clunis Inquiry, looking particularly at the implications for policy. I also initiated an approach to conferences where 90% of the audience were service users. In Kent as Director of Operations and then as Strategic Director of Social Services, I chaired the Kent Child Protection Committee for thirteen years.

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  29. Registered Mental Nurse (RMN)
    Certificate of Qualification in Social Work (CQSW) diploma - 1972
    Plus a range of post-qualifying training, particularly in psychiatry

    April 1991 - Director of Operations - Social Services
    March 1998 - Strategic Director, Social Services
    March 2005 - Chief Executive

    Member of: Institute of Directors
    Association of County Chief Executives - USA
    Board Member of New Local Government Network

    Charities - Kent Fund for Children - Board Member


    Total remuneration for the following periods of employment is shown below
    within bands of £10,000.
    1991/2 £40,000 to £49,999
    1992/3 £50,000 to £59,999
    1993/4 £50,000 to £59,999
    1994/5 £60,000 to £69,999
    1995/6 £50,000 to £59,999
    1996/7 £60,000 to £69,999
    1997/8 £70,000 to £79,999
    1998/9 £100,000 to £110,000 (promoted April 1998)
    1999/2000 £100,000 to £110,000
    2000/1 £100,000 to £110,000
    2001/2 £120,000 to £130,000
    2002/3 £160,000 to £169,999
    2003/4 £130,000 to £139,999
    2004/5 £160,000 to £169,999
    2005/6 £220,000 to £229,999
    2006/7 £230,000 to £239,999
    2007/8 £250,000 to £259,999


    child protection pays very well it seems!

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  30. Well well well !!!

    No surprises here then , connections to Common Purpose.

    I wonder if they paid him to talk ?

    Peter Gilroy has spoken to delegates on Common Purpose programmes giving lectures about his role as Chief Executive and his broader experience of management and innovation. He spoke at events on 15th March 2006 and 15th May 2007. No charge was ever made by KCC or Peter Gilroy himself for these talks.

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  31. Yes, I would also like to know why the Councillors & MP’s have been so quiet regarding the abuse of children being covered up.

    Nancy Shaefer, an outspoken child advocate, was brutally murdered in March. Is this what they have lined up for those that dare to speak the truth, who wont be paid off ?

    http://www.henrymakow.com/child_protect ... _rack.html

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  32. http://www.henrymakow.com/child_protective_services_rack.html

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  33. So are the mp's and councillors being paid hush money what else do they know that they are keeping quiet about ?

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  34. Hundreds of girls heavily sedated in UK care homes during the 1970s and 1980s may be at risk of having children with birth defects, the BBC has found.

    Radio 4's Today found 10 ex-residents of a children's home in Kent, have had children with a birth defect. They were all given tranquilisers and other drugs while being restrained as teenagers.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7986967.stm

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  35. anon 12.45 anon12.36

    It is common knowledge amongst some that the Freemasons have not only infiltrated the police force. They actually run it along with the councils.

    They say that people who have tasted evil tend to like it and I tend to agree. Over here the preferred method seems to be inducing good old fashioned heart attacks through poisoning or car accidents especially if they fail to lock them up in the loony bin. How many of these are carried out or ordered by the masons who can say but it doesn’t reflect from it happening.

    For instance we are due to celebrate the festival of Saturnalia in a few weeks, nothing to do with JC but loads to do with Satan.

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  36. There is a concerted effort by the powers that be to corrupt the morals of the general public, especially youngsters through mind control in the popular media and internet porn.

    Those that enter the military, apart from being exposed to depleted uranium, are loaded up with psychoactive drugs and used as guinea pigs to test suspect 'pharmaceuticals' prior to being ORDERED to commit illegal and immoral acts upon fellow humans.

    I think you will find that the people, when left alone, will tend towards good but the corrupt leadership of this world through it's millions of tentacles is trying to force it's evil upon us.

    Thankfully there is a growing awareness of this.

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  37. anon 10.04

    "I think you will find that the people, when left alone, will tend towards good but the corrupt leadership of this world through it's millions of tentacles is trying to force it's evil upon us.

    Thankfully there is a growing awareness of this."

    Totally agree with what you are saying.

    Isnt it interesting that Eric Pickles MP is bringing in a supposdely 'transparency charter' in January for councils, yet KCC still feels fit to hide so many figures which they have to hold for 7 years. Of course the public still has the right to attend their offices once a year and take a peek for themselves.

    Not that I hold out much hope for any additional transparency with all the smoke & mirrors put in place to deceive there far too many noses in the trough for that to happen sadly.

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  38. Tony

    It seems that conspiracy theory offers explanations attractive to the meagre minded.

    On child protection. Lord Clinton David phoned me last year. It was about child deaths in Hackney Council care in 1972.

    Three children died in three incidents in three months at "The Beeches" residential care home Ixworth Suffolk from Janu8ary to March 1972.

    In 72 Davis, then Hackney MP, had requested minister Sir Keith Joseph for public inquiry. This was refused.

    In fact last year Davis told me his concern was about child deaths at The Beeches from 1966 to 1972. Of these only THREE received inquests. None of those sat with jury.

    Of the three in 72 only ONE received inquest.

    One of the problems identified to me in the 90s by HM Coroner West Suffolk is that the offiociating Coroner is where death occurs. IE He could not trace Coroners records for the deaths unless he knew where death occurred (IE Where they were ambulanced or transported)

    As the rural beat Pc for the neighbouring rural area in Suffolk in 72 my concern was that the reason the tory minister refused public inquiries was that he wanted to refuse inquiry (and not set precedent) concerning deaths in the Sue Ryder Home at Cavendish (Like The Beeches Ixworth subject of West Suffolk Social Services monitoring)

    So the situation in 72 was Sir Keith Jospeh refusing calls for inquiry from the New Zealand Govt on behalf of a citizen who died at the Sue Ryder Home, from shadow minister Barbara Castle, from Michael O'Halloran MP and from Clinton Davis MP.

    The category of care home Sue Ryder and Leonard Cheshire registered as was Section 37 National Assistance Act 1948.

    This provided levels of registration. The standard of social services (and benefits) monitoring of care provision was determined by the category of registration.

    Sue Ryder regtistered as a "Care Home" (the same category as the many private care homes in Thanet). In spite of taking in hospice and serious nursing sup[port cases her hopmes were regfistered in the catgeory whi9chy did not require that she employed qualified nurses. A pretentious cottage hoispital fantasy in reality a boarding house and only monitored as such.

    It may appear that Social Services were letting these care homes away with robbing the public purse for providing sub standard care. It may appear to be conspiratorial. But the fact is public sector does not function on duty but functiopnms on the narrowest interpretation of direction. Hence unfit for actual purpose care homes passed social services monitor. "Does it meet the standards set by its category of registration?" Yes. And the social worker ticks the box and turns its back on the human suffering within.

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  39. In 1975/76 Thanet offered the opportunity to address the Section 37 care home monitoring shortcomings.

    Panorama broadcast a programme featuring Edwin Baars.

    Baars had been discharged from a mental hospital in another county and his hospital social worker had given him a letter and a single rail ticket to Margate where he arrived homeless. Eventually he would be taken in by one of the resort's Section 37 private care homes.

    The final line of his social worker letter read "This man is truly in need of symathetic help and understanding". Aaaah the sentiment of the caring social worker who followed order5s to discharge the man to another county homeless.

    The Panorama broadcast was the beginning of changes to Social Services directions and care monitoring law.

    I faced, for a while, threats of charges under the Official Secrets Act for allegedly being Panorama source.

    Another argument, arising out of the care home deaths and out of Kent Police failures to protect life (such as the eleven Royal Marines murdered at Deal Barracks 1989 by IRA) was first made by me to European Court of Human Rights in mid 90s. That Coroners Inquests must uphold our Article 2 (European Convention of Human Rights) commitment to protect life.

    Now we have "Article 2 Inquests". These are inquests such as the July bombings one in which HM Coroner investigates whether authority had failed to protect life by preventing the attack or incident.

    Ireland (Ballymurphy massacre) is possibly setting a precedent. They are seeking an Article 2 inquest retrospectively. To deaths of 1971.

    Well what happens if the Sue Ryder Homes deaths, the Hackney Social Services child care deaths, the eleven Royal Marines deaths and other such cases now get Article 2 Inquests ?

    Take, for example, the position of a succession of Kent Chief constables. Refuse to record complaints (leading to the late John Allen and I playing our part in bringing about the creation of IPCC) and refuse to answer.

    At a retrospecdftive Article 2 Inquest into the Deal Barracks bombing then we would see ex Chief Supt Rogers dragged back from Australia to answer to HM Coroner. The protective silence no longer available to him or the Chief constables.

    Instead of wittering on about conspiracies I would say it is better to face injustice but also to argue for remedies which help prevent the continuance of injustice. I can say I played my part in the following:

    Changes to care home legislation and social services monitoring

    Article 2 Inquests

    Creation of IPCC

    Try to leave the world a better place at your death than it was at your birth.

    Though others sneer be unto thine own self true.

    The late John Allen (East Westcliff Residents Assn) who stood up to Chief constable. Who was involved in creation of IPCC. At whose funeral I read out condolences from Nobel Prize winner David Trimble. John was a Freemason. He was unto himself true. And the world is a better place for his life and pursuits of justice.

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  47. Freemasons' recipe for deflecting the truth:

    Take a large mixing bowl, add a dash of personal insult and a sprig of 'conspiracy theory', top it up with dashings of tired old declassified info that looks clever but only serves to stupefy it's reader. Finally, sprinkle a tiny bit of 'we really ought to sort this business out' to make it appear that we give a f***

    Bon appetit!

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  48. Investigation launched into mystery death of Gravesend teenager aged 14
    ‘A KCC spokesman said the youngster was being supported by "a number of agencies, including children's social services" when he died, but the council said it cannot reveal any more about the circumstances of the death for fear of compromising either of the investigations.’
    ‘Kent County Council's child social services has also launched an investigation into the death, in conjunction with Kent Police.’(does exactly fill one with confidence does it ,lets hope they do a better job than they did with Kendall House non- investigation)

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/gravesend_messenger/news/2009/november/26/teen_found_dead.aspx

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  49. The most likely reason for forcibly adopting happy healthy kids is social workers keeping themselves and their private practice professional pals in a job. Solicitors, barristers, child psychologists in private practice, etc

    http://www.achippp.org.uk/

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  50. Kendall House Kent Childrens Home

    Teresa Cooper wrote a book called
    Trust No One

    Parents, grandparents , aunties, uncles in fact anyone who really cares about children should read this book it is a real eye opener to what goes on behind closed doors in the 'SS best interest of the child caring sector'

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  51. Tony, pleased to see you are at last dealing with the infestation on your blog but be wary that many of the anonymous, but equally boring and recognisable postings, are also 'Retired.'

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  52. Boring postings ???

    This is the best blog ever and addresses many issues of non services and the lack of exposure of those services.

    Are you a councillor by any chance or an officer of the council which is what you would expect from the move along nothing to see here (but the truth )!

    Looks to me like there are many different posters with varying views which seems perfectly fair.

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  53. Probably an MP they are top of the food chain for secrets & coverups and all work together it doesnt matter what party they represent, its just a sham they dont represent the people who voted for them apart from on mundane matters.

    Every single one knows about the Hollie Greig child abuse case and the forced adoption happening on their patch, all were invited to the Child Abuse in Trafalgar Square but NOT ONE bothered to turn up.

    Ask yourselves WHY , if they are not party to coverups?

    Is the reason they are exempt from FOI ACT for their protection or our benefit , not the latter it seems.

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  54. Goldman Sucks exec grilled for for selling dodgy derivatives.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLx2Xc1EXLg

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  55. More "Shitty Deal’s" reported by the Telegraph

    Forced adoptions get no sympathy from the ministry

    While loving families are torn apart, Whitehall insists the system is working fine, says Christopher Booker

    Last week I listened for an hour to a sobbing mother describing how she recently lost the six-year-old daughter who is the centre of her life. Her fatal mistake was to ask social workers for advice when she was being troubled by "harassment" from the child's father, from whom she parted some years ago. Within days, although it was never suggested that she had harmed her daughter in any way, she found herself facing a "case conference" of 20 people at the local council offices, the conclusion of which was that her child must be placed in foster care.

    The solicitor she was given by the social workers refused to oppose the care order. At a "contact" session, when she and her bewildered daughter emotionally expressed their love for each other, the interview was halted. She has not been allowed to see her child again.

    Having followed dozens of such cases in recent months, which suggest that something has gone horribly wrong with our child protection system, I was recently invited for an off-the-record ministerial discussion about what I have been reporting. But far from recognising that anything might be astray, the official line, it seems, is that the horrifying cases I have covered represent only an untypical minority of the total – "less than 10 per cent". In general, the system is working fine.

    This line seems to be confirmed by the latest guidance issued to local authorities by the Children's Minister, Tim Loughton, who says that too many councils are failing to ensure that enough children are being adopted, and that the backsliders must speed up their flow of adoptions. No question as to whether social workers might be snatching too many of the wrong children in the first place – or why the courts seem so eager to support them that, of around 8,000 applications made each year for care orders, only one in 400 is refused.

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  56. I shall give just one disturbing instance of the latest developments in a case I have been following for months. Like many others, this came to me through the Forced Adoption website, run by former councillor Ian Josephs.

    It involves a married couple whose five older children were seized earlier this year, subsequent to which their latest baby was torn from its mother's arms only hours after it was born.

    The bizarre story originally stated by the social workers to justify their ruthless intervention in this family's life seems to have collapsed. At a recent court hearing, I am told, the judge seemed disposed to reunite the family as soon as possible. The baby was returned to her parents later that day. But the council asked for 21 days' stay of execution before returning the five older children, three of whom the parents had not been allowed to see for weeks. The judge apparently agreed but insisted that an independent social worker should interview the children.

    The independent social worker eventually managed to interview four of the children, apparently reporting that they all wished to be allowed to go home to their parents. But the court refused to give the parents a copy of the judge's ruling, and on Friday they were summoned back to hear from him that he had now seemingly changed his mind and that the children did not wish to come home after all. According to the parents, they were not allowed to question the evidence on which he based his new ruling, although they were told they could appeal.

    What on earth is going on here?

    Even from the little I am permitted to report of this case, it seems evident that something seriously odd is afoot.
    But this is merely one of far too many cases where families are being heartlessly torn apart, often without the parents even being allowed to question the evidence or to speak for themselves. To hear such horror stories being dismissed as representing "less than 10 per cent" of all the cases where children are seized is simply not good enough. Each is shocking enough in its own right. But when every week brings news of a dozen more, this only confirms that we indeed have a national scandal on our hands.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8165143/Forced

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  57. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8165143/Forced-adoptions-get-no-sympathy-from-the-ministry.html

    Ian Josephs ex Kent County
    Councillor now that is very interesting

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  58. I shall give just one disturbing instance of the latest developments in a case I have been following for months. Like many others, this came to me through the Forced Adoption website, run by former councillor Ian Josephs. It involves a married couple whose five older children were seized earlier this year, subsequent to which their latest baby was torn from its mother's arms only hours after it was born.

    The bizarre story originally stated by the social workers to justify their ruthless intervention in this family's life seems to have collapsed. At a recent court hearing, I am told, the judge seemed disposed to reunite the family as soon as possible. The baby was returned to her parents later that day. But the council asked for 21 days' stay of execution before returning the five older children, three of whom the parents had not been allowed to see for weeks. The judge apparently agreed but insisted that an independent social worker should interview the children.

    The independent social worker eventually managed to interview four of the children, apparently reporting that they all wished to be allowed to go home to their parents. But the court refused to give the parents a copy of the judge's ruling, and on Friday they were summoned back to hear from him that he had now seemingly changed his mind and that the children did not wish to come home after all. According to the parents, they were not allowed to question the evidence on which he based his new ruling, although they were told they could appeal.
    What on earth is going on here? Even from the little I am permitted to report of this case, it seems evident that something seriously odd is afoot.
    But this is merely one of far too many cases where families are being heartlessly torn apart, often without the parents even being allowed to question the evidence or to speak for themselves. To hear such horror stories being dismissed as representing "less than 10 per cent" of all the cases where children are seized is simply not good enough. Each is shocking enough in its own right. But when every week brings news of a dozen more, this only confirms that we indeed have a national scandal on our hands.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8165143/Forced-adoptions-get-no-sympathy-from-the-ministry.html

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  59. I shall give just one disturbing instance of the latest developments in a case I have been following for months. Like many others, this came to me through the Forced Adoption website, run by former councillor Ian Josephs.

    It involves a married couple whose five older children were seized earlier this year, subsequent to which their latest baby was torn from its mother's arms only hours after it was born.
    The bizarre story originally stated by the social workers to justify their ruthless intervention in this family's life seems to have collapsed. At a recent court hearing, I am told, the judge seemed disposed to reunite the family as soon as possible. The baby was returned to her parents later that day. But the council asked for 21 days' stay of execution before returning the five older children, three of whom the parents had not been allowed to see for weeks. The judge apparently agreed but insisted that an independent social worker should interview the children.

    The independent social worker eventually managed to interview four of the children, apparently reporting that they all wished to be allowed to go home to their parents. But the court refused to give the parents a copy of the judge's ruling, and on Friday they were summoned back to hear from him that he had now seemingly changed his mind and that the children did not wish to come home after all. According to the parents, they were not allowed to question the evidence on which he based his new ruling, although they were told they could appeal.

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  60. What on earth is going on here?

    Even from the little I am permitted to report of this case, it seems evident that something seriously odd is afoot.

    But this is merely one of far too many cases where families are being heartlessly torn apart, often without the parents even being allowed to question the evidence or to speak for themselves. To hear such horror stories being dismissed as representing "less than 10 per cent" of all the cases where children are seized is simply not good enough.

    Each is shocking enough in its own right. But when every week brings news of a dozen more, this only confirms that we indeed have a national scandal on our hands.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8165143/Forced-adoptions-get-no-sympathy-from-the-ministry.html

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  61. Retired

    Former Kent Chief Constable
    Michael Fuller

    Common purpose graduate believed to have been promoted by Baroness of Scotland to Chief Inspector of the Crown Prosecution service.

    Michael Fuller Kent-West Kent Police, Maidstone - Police
    Headquarters South London - 1998/99 South London Matrix

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  62. 6:10

    Christopher Booker is a top guy, we need more like him and The Telegraph is a shining example of what a newspaper should be about.

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  63. anon 9.08

    bang on the money with your comment

    Would you trust this man with your children even after his apology in providing a third rate child protection services in Kent ?

    I know I wouldn't.

    http://save-kent.blogspot.com/search/label/Paul%20Carter

    Do these look like the eyes of a loving a parent ?

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  64. All paths lead back to the central banking power, it could all be over as soon as there is a concerted international effort to take back sovereignty and the central banks.

    Shyster politicians, businessmen, public servants, bankers are all being coerced by dodgy photographs and a luxurious but unwholesome lifestyle.

    Come on people WAKE UP!

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  65. Oh no not another D Day notice they really must be scared what have they got to hide I wonder.

    http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=4200&end=4220&view=yes&id=5587#newspost

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  66. DAMNED IF THEY DO

    quote

    "Please could you send me a schedule of how the local authority have supported my family since we were categorised as a family in need by Kent County Council according to their duties under Part 3 of the Children Act."

    http://www.mediafire.com/?igb0f758y7ed677

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  67. In the secret Family Courts, where experts are not subjected to peer review, and where medical concepts are able to persist. that would be unable to survive in the wider world of peer review. They make it up as they go along effectively conducting a horrendous experiment on the the families of this country. Joseph Mengele would be so proud!

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  68. Child Protection ?

    There must be some very redfaced corporate parent councillors.

    http://www.dramatis.hostcell.net/Index_B_pt2/index_b_pt2.html#BookerC

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  69. 0447 - This was a good blog but it is in serious danger of having only you on it. Most folk can only take so much boredom and you are well over the limit.

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  70. 0447 - This was a good blog but it is in serious danger of having only you on it. Most folk can only take so much boredom and you are well over the limit.

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  71. Not many families will be wishing Paul Carter or any of the other Corporate Councillors a merry christmas !

    Where's the comments from these councillors or MP's, cat got their tongue ?

    http://nameshamesocialworkers.blogspot.com/2008/08/shame-your-social-worker.html

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  72. 5.30 How can the abuse of children ever be considered boring ?

    This is the sort of comment one would expect from either an abuser or someone who condones abuse or wishes to keep it hidden.


    The only one who is boring on here is YOU if you dont like it move on, no one is forcing you to read or are you a paid shrill. It is up to Tony what he allows on this blog NOT YOU !


    Brian Gerrish speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 (Part 2)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iC7Ar4rm3g&feature=related

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  73. How can the abuse of children ever be classed as boring what a sick comment.

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  74. Former Conservative Kent councillors one with business connections to Conservative Lord Michael Hesltine who has speaking out about forced adoption in Kent since the 1960’s and another had her four granddaughters stolen. Both of whom spoke out alongside Brian Gerrish at the Child Stealing by the State conference in Stafford.

    Ian Josephs former Conservative Ramsgate Kent County Councillor who also stood for election as a LIB DEM.

    http://www.forced-adoption.com/introduction.asp

    REMEMBER THESE EVEN IF YOU FORGET EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE ADVISED!

    1: NEVER contact social services (child protection) for help or advice.

    Read his comments on another couple with conservative connections who have just had their daughter stolen for forced adoption.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8148987/Forced-adoption-another-win-for-the-child-snatchers.html

    Former Conservative Councillor speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApaElxYGFyo

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  75. How convenient and the forced adoption ones ????

    29 November 2010

    Review looks at 7,000 child protection cases in Kent
    An urgent review of 7,000 cases has been launched after Kent County Council's (KCC) child protection services were found to be inadequate.

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  76. 10.28

    This is just a call for MORE social workers for the ARMY in the government's WAR ON FAMILIES. soon England will be a team of police and social workers. Trafficked children may even be our biggest export - AFTER WEAPONS!

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  77. You can contact Children's Minister Tim Loughton to give him your opinion at http://www.timloughton.com/gettingintouch/

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  78. I have just come across a whole pile of comments captured as spam since they relate to a prominent official I'll hang fire on allowing them, unless the author would like to explain and add their name I will delete

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  79. The links all appear to be correct Tony a google search confirms the information is 100% correct

    Quote:

    ‘After graduating he built up a property business in partnership with his Oxford friend Ian Josephs. With financial support from both of their families they started with a boarding house in Clanricarde Gardens and progressed to various other properties in the Bayswater area.’

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Heseltine


    Ian Josephs

    CHARTERHOUSE THEN OXFORD AND A LAW DEGREE IN 1954
    Ran bedsitters and then an hotel in Bayswayer with business partner Michael Heseltine,then founded Regency School of English in Ramsgate ,Tory kent cc councillor; then 3 times liberal candidate for parliament , created then sold several small businesses,hotels appartments,and a restaurant .I now live in Monaco with 2nd french wife Danielle,7 children,8 grandchildren running language schools and helping parents fighting social workers who kidnap children for adoption !

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132854780092800#!/profile.php?id=525077840

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  80. Tony these are dangerous times especially when the public are getting wind of what has been hidden from view for so long.

    You know what happened to Nancy, check out Bill Maloney Pie n Mash Films all institutionalised child abuse is unfortunately connected.

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  82. Two years on and after leaving the Lib Dems over broken promises and ministerial cars, I am reminded by the article on Kent CC costs as to why I went in to politics. How about a new political party. South East Taxpayers Alliance would fit, with the objective of sacking all council officers other than a core admin function to take minutes and call meetings. All other functions would be run by three Public Interest Companies. A Contracts company to buy the required goods and services; A Compliance company to enforce the contracts and a Finance company to manage the accounting functions. Less waste, no excessive pensions, direct control by the elected members - and direct responsibility if they make a mess - or indeed - do a great job. Any support out there from the majority of the electorate? That's the non-voting party by the way.

    Peter Bucklitsch
    Ex Lib Dem
    South Thanet Parliamentary candidate

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