Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Bikers from hell not Hull

Since yesterday afternoon, I have been receiving abusive offensive comments referred from three Internet websites these are http://www.superbikeforums.co.uk/index.php/topic,13349.0.html
All these abusive, remarks presumably come from motorcyclists who apparently took exception to me objecting to transport minister Steven Ladyman's opposition to improved European Union road safety laws.

I will admit that my knowledge of motorcycling is limited and all I know of motorcycling is what I have heard from owners and riders of motorbikes, who seem always to delight in stories of excessive speed.

Perhaps my biggest failing, as far as motorcyclists are concerned, is my ignorance concerning the motorcycle lane, now what I do know about the motor cycle lane, is that only a motorcycles are allowed to use it, the lane markings are completely invisible to any other road user, and there is generally an unmarked motor cycle lane on every road.

How do you spot, the motorcycle lane? Well this can be difficult, but on a motorway , the motorcycle lane will be in the middle of two lanes, perhaps the best example of this is on the M2/A2 and can be observed at peak times, what you will generally notice, is a motorcyclists hanging very close to your vehicle generally to the left-hand side of your lane, then when the traffic is at almost peak congestion but it still travelling at speed and a whilst you're concentrating on the traffic in front, you suddenly realise, that effectively, you are driving for two, not only do you have to consider your reactions to the traffic flow, you now have to consider the reactions of a motor cyclist, you don't know who is either dangerously close to your rear bumper, or alternatively trying to find a blind-spot, somewhere to the left of your vehicle.

The motorcycle lane, on a minor road, will generally make itself apparent when you realise that you have either a motorbike or scooter 3 ft from your rear bumper, you can as I do gently tap on the brakes(NOT SLOW BUT TO ILLUMINATE THE BRAKE LIGHTS) , so that the bike rider is aware of the danger, although generally this provokes a hostile reaction.

One of thing you must remember with the motorcycle lane, normal traffic laws are suspended for the motorcyclists.

I suggest you, look at my previous posting on this matter, read-through the comments and at least be thankful that the correspondents have been polite, informative, non-threatening, non-sexist, non homophobic and reasonable dispelling those terrible stereotypical views.

Again I would say it looks like someone orchestrated the abuse, which I received yesterday and presumably will continue you to receive.

I suggest any of my critics get their own at blogsite, stop intimidating people.

Perhaps the most insulting of these remarks found on the above Web links are those that suggests that I hate motorcyclists this is not the case, most of the contributors are clearly filled with so much hate and bigotry, perhaps they just need a big hug wonder if David Cameron would oblige.

It's a pity the administrators, of these motorbikes sites allow such appalling abuse of someone they don't know.

40 comments:

  1. Tony I'm not sure what to make of you. You got yourself some swingers and came onto our site, which I must admit impressed me, to which I honestly thought that we may actually get somewhere and have a sensible discussion as to the why's and what for's.
    I'm afraid though that its now clearly not going to happen. You ask why you are getting abuse etc and you go and type this " you can as I do gently tap on the brakes(NOT SLOW BUT TO ILLUMINATE THE BRAKE LIGHTS)"
    YOU MY FRIEND ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER ARSE!
    YOU HAVE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED YOURSELF AS A DANGER TO BIKERS ON UK ROADS AND AS FAR AS I AM NOW CONCERNED YOU DESERVE EVEYTHING YOU GET ON THIS BLOG AND IF I SEE YOU ON OUR WEBSITE I WILL MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IT!
    NOW BUGGER OFF BACK TO YOUR DAY JOB, WHERE I BELIEVE YOU GET REGULAR THREATS, CLEARLY DESERVED!

    From ZX10BEN superbikeforums.co.uk

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  2. have to say brave of you to come onto the SBF forums even into our chat room, thought you we're up for sensible debate but no no your opions are the only true and correct ones.

    I would urge you to go do a CBT to get a taste of what the roads are like on 2 wheels, you're small (not you personally we can all see that) and vulnerable and prob only 10% of other road users actually think of looking for you.

    you seem to be attacking bikers from using their size to its only advantage in filtering through traffic, so as you seem to hate it considder this, at least we are insured etc unlike cyclists who do the same.......

    now i believe a good journalist is able to see an argument from all sides try to have a glance at ours

    Viv www.superbikeforums.co.uk

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  3. look mister ting tong
    i surgest you get on a bike an see what its like for all us bikers with all you car driving idiots on the road. you make the hazzords we just think alot quicker than you to get out the way of it. try riding a bike for the day an youl'll see why we ride the way wee do.
    as you can see from the 2 be for me you are an arse. an if your up for it i'll take you out on the back so you can get the real feeling for it....... if ya too chicken to see it for ya self.

    an if i'd known you were in chat i would have told ya this. tosspot.


    faf_zx7r superbikeforum.co.uk

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  4. whats the matter tooooo spicy for ya ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

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  5. dear tony im a member of the superbikeforum and am genuinly sorry i missed you last night please come back to our site tomo around 20.30 so i can voice my opinions personally im not a hairy tattoed biker but would like to here your views against the motorcycle fraternity,and give you good reason why you are out of order on your beleaves,yes i can see your views but you need to take ours on board and not beline to mud slinging about a community you dont know,kind regards gixxerflatout

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  6. Looks like you've opened up a can of worms you can't eat here, Tony old sport. Would you like me to take you for a whizz around the island on my old throbber so you could at least get a two-wheeled perspective on things? I'd be happy to oblige.

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  7. Tony, please remember the Highwaycode is an advisory document, and although many items in it are law, not all are. You seem to have a problem with bikes filtering down some invisible fastlane on the motorway. If you bother to check this out before shooting your mouth off, you will see that this is perfectly legal and acceptable to the police. Also you mentioned under taking, which again is perfectly legal, the highway code suggest we should carry out overtaking on the right but once again this is not legal. It is perfectly Ok to overtake on the left, providing you do not impeed with other drivers progress through traffic, so once again your ill informed opinions cannot be substantiated with fact,, so I would suggest that you use your hands and mouth for the purpose that it seems to excell at, and that is feeding doughnuts and maccyD's down ya throut, but please can you carry out this practice outside of a moving vehicle, as previously described by yourself.

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  8. Admit it, Tony, lifes become interesting for a few days hasnt it.

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  9. idiot, you really dont have a clue

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  10. you fucking fat prick. i want to ram that piece of cake in your pic down your throat and fucking choke you to death.

    lots of love from superbikeforums.co.uk

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  11. you sir,have not got a clue,about what it's like to ride a motorcycle on the roads of Briton

    "you can as I do gently tap on the brakes(NOT SLOW BUT TO ILLUMINATE THE BRAKE LIGHTS)"

    So u think that is the action of a considerate,careful,and responsible road user?

    you are a class one prick fella

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  12. i just think u hate bikers just get a life u said fook

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  13. As far as I am concerned you are the halfwit bastard son of a cocksucking cheap pox ridden streetwhore - lets see your reaction as a 40 ton arctic in front of you gently taps his brakes - thats if you can see around of the cake that you got rammed in your fat porky fucking face

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  14. Tony,

    If you want to pass comment " get informed " on the subjects you write about .

    try following a stream of cars in the pouring rain all driving in the fast lane over taking nothing , looking at you in their mirrors.......

    No consideration given as usual ......

    For a person who "publishes" HIS opinions your views are totally unfounded and are general rubbish .
    From your pic you look like you are better at eating than writing so maybe you should stick to eating ....

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  15. you aint got a clue,i ride on the m2/A2/ and drive an hgv lorry,maybe it would be funny if i just dabbed the brake while you was behind me,you've already classed it as us and them,,maybe you should try riding a bike on the road for a week,thats if ya could get ya fat arse on the bike.
    try doing something constructive fat boy,by having a go at uninsured drivers,using mobile phones whilst driving,drink driving,sounds like ya a bit envious porky,as we can get thru peak traffic and you have to wait in the queues hahahahahah
    fooking fat wretch.
    maybe next time ya on the roads m8,and a biker comes passed ya and finds out its you it could be an expensive do in wing mirrors,windows,its amazing wot bikers gloves are made of these days.and by the sounds of it ya wouldnt or couldnt get out of ya car cos ya would be screaming for ya mummy.twat!!!

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  16. so what about all the car drivers texting/ changing a cd/ tuning the radio or messing with the sat nav??????? oh no they can do no wrong because they have 4 wheels. just the other week i went up the m1 and covered about 6 miles non stop in the inside lane because a. most cars stay in the middle lane and b. the 'jaguar' lane is always full of executive cars that couldn't possibly use any other lane, probably like yourself homer, i admit a few bikers do give us a bad name but if you wanna be like that then surely all car drivers are pricks aswell. now go and tidy your desk you fat idle swine,
    ps. its nice to know what you look like incase we bump in to one another, i can say hello properly

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  17. PERSONALLY I JUST THINK YOU'RE A FAT PIE-EATING FUCK. AND NOT WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT. YOU OBVIOUSLY GET A KICK OUT OF ACTING THE TWAT. SADDAM DID THE SAME- NUFF SAID

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  18. Tony. As a member of one of the sites you have named (superbikeforums), I feel that you have wrongly judged the people on there and have brought any animosity on, yourself.

    You obviously have no concept of what it is like to ride a bike on todays roads, so your comments on what is best for bikers in regards to safety are unsympathetic, irrelevant and immaterial.

    I suggest in future, if your going to make rash comments and judgements on a minority group, then you do a little more homework before doing so. By-the-way, I've heared that horse riders and cyclists are a right bunch of tossers...
    ...who eat small children.

    If you poke a wasps nest with a stick, expect to get stung.

    Skinny

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  19. WELL WHAT CAN I SAY, IM A CAR DRIVER, AN HGV DRIVER, AND A PASSIONATE MOTORCYCLE RIDER, SO YOU COULD SAY I HAVE 2 MORE LICENCES THAN YOURSELF, AND MORE EXPERIANCE OF THE ROADS AND THE LAW,AS TO YOUR COMMENTS: ID LOVE TO MEET YOU, AND TAKE YOU ON THE BACK OF MY KAWASAKI ZX9R FOR A DAY AND SEE, JUST WHERE THE IDIOTS ARE, AND AFTER THAT DAY YOU WILL REALISE THAT CAR DRIVERS ARE IGNORANT TO THE MOTORCYCLIST, LEARNER DRIVERS ARE NOW TAUGHT TO PULL TO THE LEFT A LITTLE TO LET A MOTOR BIKE PASS, NOW THATS COMMON SENCSE DONT YOU THINK ? SO THERES MY OFFER TO YOU, TAKE YOU OUT ALL DAY ON MY BIKE AND LET YOU EXPERIANCE THE PRATTS OF THE ROAD, WHICH I DOWT YOU WILL TAKE MY OFFER UP, AS I THINK THE THOUGHT OF TO WHEELS SCARE YOU.....????

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  20. Disagree strongly with the expressed views of this blog's author by all means, but can't you do so without commenting on his physical appearance? I am fat. I am content to be fat. I suspect many of you are also fat, or wear glasses, or have spotty skin - whatever. It's the behaviour of the playground to use those features or characteristics in an attack.

    The Law prevents anyone using race, religion, and gender in this way, but DECENCY and maturity should prevent people from using other factors.

    Think about it.

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  21. What did you do to these poor people?
    Still, look on the bright side, every one of them, so far, has made your own spelling and grammar look almost impeccable.

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  22. You poor misguided fool.

    I bet you did not realise what a can of worms you would be opening with your poorly contstructed blog.

    If you don't like the fact that bikers can filter through traffic, well, guess what, there isn't a legal thing you can do about it....

    As for all the "careful" car drivers who use the A2, I'm so glad that the driver who drove straight into the side of me, when I was clearly established in lane 3, was nice and warm and oblivious to anything other than the little world inside his metal box.

    Personally, I think it should be part of the car test, which most bikers have passed (along with my HGV and Tracked vehicle), to have a form of bike awareness section.

    There, a comment without personal comments on your size or appearance.....that would just be too easy




    WANKER !!!!!!!!!!!

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  23. So,Sausage Boy.

    Thats the end of the abuse now. And once again you can rest easy Ginsters in hand and get back to looking after Thanet and Margate with your online pals.

    perhaps you should watch "Hard Candy"

    nighty night. xx

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  24. Hello Tony,I think you have the reaction from Motorcyclists you were possibly hoping for.I can only hope that no serious incident is caused by your comment about brake lights.If you find that someone elses driving/riding makes you uncomfortable let them pass and continue on their way,it can be the only safest option for all concerned.Comments and actions like yours however published will cost someone their life.Live with that thought.

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  25. I cannot believe what you have just publically said...and suggested!

    I will admit that your words made me smile...purely due to the fact that you have proved yourself to have exactly the same smallmindedness of the majority of car drivers in respect of motorcyclists.

    I ride a bike, I get quite a lot of attention too, expecially from car drivers. Car drivers like to try and race me, car drivers like to try and carve me up on the roads, car drivers like to hoot their horns and wave at me frantically, car drivers like to watch me more than the road......it isn't because I ride aggressively, or on one wheel, or even in my own 'magic' lane as you suggest....its merely because I am a woman! YES A WOMAN ON A BIKE!! WOW now that must be worth leaving all concentration at the side of the road for eh?

    As far as I am concerned, the most dangerous thing on the road is the person in the car that has anything better to do than drive his damn car! Change the stereo, use the mobile, light a fag, perv over the leather clad girlie....

    You are the irresponsible Tony...I hope for your own sake your words of advice don't end in the death of an innocent biker.

    I also hope for your own sake that you don't meet up with any of the bikers that have seen your photo and read your words....

    You are a very stupid man.

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  26. Anonymous said...
    Dear sir you might well wonder why you are getting such offensive replys,My answer to this would be that motorcyclist are constantly attacked by misinformed,jumped up arrogant,half blind cage driving arsewipes like yourself,who like to spout off at every given chance about something you yourself admit you know nothing about.I personally find you offensive.Bikers are the salt of the earth,they do a fantastic amount of charity fund raising,the majority will always stop and help a fellow biker in distress, they carry out numerous mercy missions (blood and organ transplant transportation) easter egg runs,christmas runs etc so instead of running them down i urge you to get a motorbike and find out what you are really missing out on.Life can be so much fun on two wheels.

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  27. Your comments and suggestions as to how to deal with motorcyclists riding behind you are absolutely outrageous and I can see why other bikers who have left comments have been so abusive.

    They will be fumming to almost bursting..However I am not going to abuse you..I would just like to try and point out how wrong and how seriously bad your attityde is to motorcycles on the road.

    You relly do need to change your ways..I would personally have you banned from driving because of your behaviour..If i had my way.

    I live in Thanet and I ride a motorcycle...please please do not advocate to other car users to try these outragous methods of braking...you will kill somebody and you will have to face the cosequences of your awful behaviour for the rest of your life.

    I am a car driver and a motorcyclist..I know the dangers that cars present to 2 wheeled riders.

    You must take back what you said in your blog..it is the only deacent thing to do.

    I am sure there will be more abuse to come..if you continue your dangerous and irrational comments on how to kill a biker.

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  28. hi tony it seem you've stirred up a nest of bees with your half arsed comments on bikers and there riding skills lets hope it don't come back to sting you in the arse. well hope to see you at work Monday. mind you Monday a long way off and a lot can happen between now and then. never mind i hear margate has an excellent hospital. lets hope you haven't slag off any doctors and nurses on your site.

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  29. Tony, do you by any chance also change lanes without signalling or looking, use a mobile phone when driving, smoke eat drink at the wheel, sit in the fast lane, never pulling over, throwing water, fag ends, rubbish at me, shouting at me, pretend to open your door in my path, when I filter, flashing your break lights (oh yes thats you) I see you many times every day what have I ever done to deserve such torment and total lack of consideration every single day I ride on the public roads, I hope you are banned from driving before you hurt someone, or get hurt yourself.
    cube - vfr owners - motorcyclist

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  30. If you ignore the abuse, there are some serious comments here containing gems of wisdom for non-PTWs (powered 2-wheelers) to be aware of on the roads.

    I'd just like to point out that, in my experience, bikers generally spend a lot more time, effort & money on their riding (not their rides!) than those on 4 or more wheels. In any group of bikers you may find a tw@t. I guarantee you will also find a large percentage who have done extra training - the police-led BikeSafe, IAM, RoSPA, track days, track-training days, MAC etc etc.

    I know dozens.

    How many car drivers do you know who can say the same?

    I know 2 IAM advanced drivers. They both ride bikes.

    Bimbler from bikersoracle.com

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  31. I have no problem with any of your views. When I ride regard all drivers as sharing them, which helps keep me safe.

    If I thought for one minute that any other road user was going to be driving with consideration for others, I might be lulled into a false sense of security. I would then succumb to the next uninsured sausage eating, mobile phoning, texting, sat nav fumbling, cd changing, drugged up and probably drunk chimp who had crawled behind the wheel.

    Most of the bikers that you see filtering are just people going to work, not pleasure bent thrill seekers desparate for their next adrenaline fix. Next time try moving over slighty to let them on their way.

    The wave you get might even make you feel better about yourself.

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  32. All you have done is confirm what most motorcyclists already thought.

    Car drivers are so anti-bike, based on jealousy, frustration and the general feeling of us being more free on our bikes than car drivers are in their boxes.

    If you really want to discuss this, why not come across to a forum and try to put your points across. We promise not to slate you straight away, we won't slate you if your points are valid, but to advocate dabbing brake pedals and the like is not the actions of a reasonable person. Would you do it if there was police vehicle (in your opinion) too close to you? I think not.

    http://www.sportsbikeforum.co.uk

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  33. Tony, you're a beave man to makke so many coments against bikes from a position of such ignorance. The biggest danger I could see in any of your comments was the illuminating your brake lights. That's the action of a real danger on the roads. It's clear to me you have absolutely no idea about how to utilise the small size and exceptional accelerating capabilities of a motorcycle, then of course I guess you've never ridden one?
    None of the things you dislike are illegal, in fact filtering in the "motorcycle lane" is actively encouraged - it's called making progress and using a bike to it's advantage. You strike me as one of those morons who'd try and close up the gap to prevent filtering - wouldn't you be the clever one if you then impeded the progress of a police or paramedic motorcycle to a life threatening incident.
    Before you comment with such blatent ignorance again on a subject you clearly know nothing about - think again and step away from the keyboard.
    Better to remain silent and let people think you're a fool, rather than say something and conform it.

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  34. i tried on thursday eve in our sbf privavte chat room to speak to you tony,as a personel message,no abuse no swearing just a polite debate about your views,what did i get in return nothing asked to wait,while you stirred up more hatred in the normal chat room,well i gave you a chance to say your piece,and all i got was ignored,You sir are a fool,you make these statements to make yourself look big and clever to your friends,YOU then enter peoples forum to stir up more hatred because i truly believe you actually get off on it,in futer i suggest you keep your vile vomit fuelled opinoins to yourself,I will be writing to your paper formally and requesting that you are removed from your job,for your comments that have been recorded and a copy will be sent to your management,so they can see for themselves wot a futile little man you are,this will also be backed up with petitons from all the motorcycle forums you have visited,i hope you do get sacked you narrow minded biggot,and i will also inform ginsters of there potential huge loss of profits,kindest regard gixxerflatout

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  35. I don't understand how some one who quite clearly knows nothing about 'bikes & biking' in general can have a valid opinion on members of the biking comunity...

    However i am giving you an chance to see firsthand just how bad the roads really are.. I am a truck driver (living in Kent you must know how much of a pain truckers are!!) & a biker & i'm inviting you to spend a day on the road with me...

    I think your opinions would change!!! Some CAR drivers antics leave me totally speechless..

    Dave540 superbike forum member...

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  36. You mention driving home from work at 90mph whilst eating a sausage roll.Do you not think the other people who travel in the back of your white company minibus deserve a safe journey home then. Ps watch out for them there trams! and get another medical done soonest!

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  37. Anon Sat Nov 18, 06:17:00 PM
    Thanks for that as you seem to know I always give a safety briefing before the journey and advise passengers to wear seatbelts, also advising of weather conditions and route changes.

    I rarely eat sausage rolls on the way home from work, occaisionally a mars bar in order to boast sugar levels and to aid alertness.

    You would also know that I drive on the left and indicate my intentions when changing lanes etc.

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  38. I get the impression that although most of the bikers(not all) have no problem with me posting into there forumns and are open minded to the extent they'll give me a fair hearing but some are clearly upset

    I'm no bloody expert in driving and never will be I just do the best I can, unlike many experts my license has been clean for 20 plus years even with a high mileage.

    I have zero interest in harming anyone and have been charactorised as some sort of moron, I have always felt that driving is a privilage and not a right, I accept that my driving is not perfect but whose is. I believe there is a "Jeremy Clarkson" attitude to road use, which means some road users beleive because they have some expensive car they own the road

    Well ill keep sitting on the fence.

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  39. Bigkwakman, Sportsbikeforum.comWednesday, 22 November 2006 at 18:41:00 GMT

    Next time you have a day off, come down and jump on the back of my bike and join me on my daily commute to and from work. Then revisit your ill-informed and extremely ignorant comments after having avoided the multitude of reps on their phones/pdas, boyracers who wanna take you out because they cant beat you and mums screaming at their kids in the back of the car. What do all these have in Common, yes tnhey are not looking at the road ahead or behind. Most bikers have infinite more road sense than the majority of car drivers and are therefore much safer road users. We ride with our lights on because generally thats the only way the twats in their tin boxes will see us. Filtering is perfectly legal and the main reason I commute to work on a bike. In a car the same journey to work takes 4 times longer than on my bike. Its people like you that keep me safe on the road. I presume every car-driver is out to get me and I ride very defensively expecting the worst. Take a holiday in italy then you will realise why everyone drives with their lights on. Italian and Spanish roads are second only to eastern european ones when it comes to dangerous driving. All bikers are passionate about their lifestyle. Next time you choose to offend a large amount of people, do it with some intelligence please.

    Bigkwakman, Sportsbikeforum.com

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  40. I love bikes and I love how cheap kawasaki motor bike insurance is compared to cars. the commute is alot faster too

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